Mohurram 12,1428/February 1, 2007 #10
Saudi Prince Turki bin Sultan hoisted with his own petard!
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to sudden removal of Sis. Yvonne Ridley from Islam Radio.
The Corporate/Zionist media have censored the news that EIGHT Black Panther
leaders have been arrested on the basis of an alleged attack which took
place 36 years back!
To placate the Black community and as a smoke screen for this dastardly
act of revenge, the media and the government have been hyping the story
of two White men who have been arrested on charges of murder committed
against 2 Black teenagers during the Civil Rights movement.
Murder of young Black men at the hands of police is a common occurrence
in U.S. cities. So why the publicity about a 34 year old case? Our
observers say, it was seemingly meant to distract attention from the
arrests of the Black Panthers.
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to our exclusive report.
Prof. Sami al-Arian, distinguished Muslim and Palestinian, is resisting
his continuing oppression in prison. It is Day 11 of his hunger strike.
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Two Letters about "Imam" Magid Who Visited Holocaust Museum
From an Angry Supporter of Magid
take me off of this email list as I am not a supporter
of such filthy attacks against a scholar of Islam Imam
Magid. Fear Allah and confront Imam Magid yourself
instead of assuming such nonsense as you have put
forth in this hateful newsletter.
From Dr. Omar Afzal: Magid Supporter Mansoor Kazi
was President of MYNA, Puppet Youth Group of ISNA
Dear Br. Kaukab,
You hit the nail right at the head. As long as
the Muslims do not understand that Islam
is "La Ilaaha..." negation of the Taghoot they
will be happy with "Buniyal Islaam-u 'ala Khamsin."
You have personally experienced how MSA of the
70s slowly inched from La Ilaaha to Muslim
nationalism of the present day ISNA. How do
you expect Ex-MYNA president to find snitching
wrong? These kids are brainwashed to believe
that Islam is nothing more than a Muslim name.
New Trend Way Ahead of the curve:
[A pat on our own back!]
Readers: Do you remember New Trend's analysis of the alleged London plot
which the British claimed involved Pakistanis working on the concoction
of liquids to create explosives on planes! We had pointed out that the
whole thing was bogus and along with the British, Gen. Musharraf's
regime probably had a hand in creating the scare.
Months later, now MSNBC TV's commentator, Keith Obermann has come out
openly to say that it was a bogus plot. In fact he is faulting President
Bush for having brought it up in his State of the Union speech.
[Millions of Americans suffered anxiety and loss of their gatorade
and lipsticks on their air trips owing to this bogus story.]
In addition, New Trend had debunked the alleged plot by Haitian Muslims
in Florida to blow up the tower in Chicago. Remember that? Again, MSNBC's
commentator Keith Obermann ridiculed Bush for counting the arrests of the
Haitians among the successes against terrorism. We were months ahead of
New Trend was the ONLY publication which came out with analysis to
undermine the two stories. at the time they were aired. We reach out
regularly to MSNBC. There can be little doubt that they picked up our
analysis, directly or indirectly.
Imam Husain's Betrayal by Shi'ism:
Return to the Qur'an and Authentic Hadith only Way out of Sectarianism:
Brief History of Shi'ism & Focus on Iraq
by Kaukab Siddique, Ph.D
The grandson of the Prophet Muhammad, pbuh, Husain ibn Ali, may Allah be
pleased with both, was martyred on the 10th of Muharram in the year 61
of the Hijra [October 10, 680 c.e.] Throughout the centuries, mainstream
Islam has gained inspiration and example from Husain's stand against
tyranny, corruption and kingship. In our own times Allama Iqbal and
Abul 'Ala Maudoodi extolled the virtues of Husain, r.a., in their
writings. Countless millions of Muslims around the world named their
male children after Husain and his elder brother Hasan, r.a.
However, as religion became more and more conventional and Islamic
communities were mislead into cultural, tribal and nationalistic
tendencies, the original message of Husain, r.a., was lost and was
replaced by sectarianism based on fabricated stories.
Essential to any understanding of the tragedy of Kerbala, where Husain,
r.a., was killed along with male members of his family, is the fact
that during the time of Prophet Muhammad, pbuh, and the Rightly Guided
Caliphs, Abu Bakr, Umar, Usman and Ali, may Allah exalt them, there
were NO Shias or Sunnis. Islam does not recognize or legitimize sects.
There is only ONE Islam.
So how did this catastrophe for the world of Islam come about that many
Shi'as and Sunnis do not consider each other Muslims and some of them
are intent on destroying each other? How did this terrible betrayal
come about that the Shi'as of Iraq welcomed the storm troopers of
the United States into the very heartland of Islam and consider them
their saviors and liberators?
History is a teacher here. These are a few highlights of Muslim history
related to the emergence of Shi'ite sectarianism. Remember during this
discussion that Islam for us is only the Qur'an and the authenticated
example of the Prophet, pbuh:
Serious efforts should be made to put an end to violence against
civilians. Shias need to become self-critical and explain to the
Muslim world how they can claim to be followers of Husain, r.a.,
ibn Ali, r.a. when they are the close associates of America in the
war on Islam.
Tribalism and narrow family loyalties, which Islam had defeated, started
re-surfacing after the ghastly murder of 'Usman, r.a., the third of the
rightly guided Caliphs. 'Ayesha Siddiqa, r.a., tried very hard to bring
the murderers to justice but the murderers brought Ali, r.a., forward
as their leader and refused to listen to Ayesha, r.a., though she gave
khutbas for 24 days in her efforts to bring about a just solution.
After 'Ayesha's, r.a, efforts failed, a long tribal war ensued between
the Ummayads, led by Muawiyya, r.a., and the followers of Ali, r.a. The
net result was that the Caliphate was undermined and kingship emerged.
Ali, r.a., was killed by one of his own supporters. Ali's, r.a.,
leadership problems created dissension within his own ranks.
After the murder of Ali, r.a., his elder son Hasan, r.a., made peace with
the Ummayads and the Muslims re-united. During the rule of Muawiyya, r.a,
the forces of Islam scored major victories against the surrounding
empires. These victories in their brilliance can only be compared with
the great successes during the Caliphate of 'Umar, r.a.
Muawiyya, r.a., harbored a a desire to be king, rather than Caliph. Before
he died, he obtained support from notable sections of the community for
the designation of his son Yazeed as the next "Caliph."
Yazeed, who had been a good Muslim in his early years, gradually receded
into dissolution, corruption, tyranny and all the vices of Kingship.
Husain, r.a., rose against his regime and proceeded to Kufa where his
supporters [literally "Shia's"] had promised to pledge allegiance to
him and to make him the Caliph.
Husain, r.a., was betrayed by the Shi'as of Kufa. Seeing him left alone
in the desert, the Governor appointed by Yazeed surrounded his small
caravan at Kerbala. He died fighting to the last, along with all but
one male in his family.
After the martyrdom of Husain, r.a., the masses of Muslims repeatedly
rose in rebellion against the Umayyad rulers and and tried to bring to
power people from the family of Ali and Fatima [may Allah be pleased
with them]. THIS WAS NOT A SECTARIAN CAUSE but was a popular movement
among the Muslim masses which intensified as the atrocities of the
Umayyad kings increased in ferocity.
The family of Abbas, r.a., an uncle of the Prophet, pbuh, with the help
of the Persians, relatively new converts to Islam, USED THE POPULARITY
of the FATIMIDS, the descendants of Hasan and Husain, to overthrow the
Umayads. A general slaughter of the Umayads followed.
Once the Abbasids gained power, they marginalized the Fatimids while
paying lip service and tokens of esteem to the descendants of Hasan
During the centuries of Abbasid rule, some of the Abbasid "Caliphs"
tried to curry favor with the masses by encouraging sectarian
activities in the name of the "Shias" of Ali, r.a., and Husain, r.a.
Thus we find the emergence of MOURNING CEREMONIES, the rituals of
self-flagellation and formalized passion plays about Kerbala.
[These are alien to Islam.]
The MOURNING on ASHURA was instituted by the Buwayhid ruler Mu'izz
al-Dawla in the year 351 after Hijra [962 c.e.] It has no basis in Islam.
With the decline and breakup of the Abbasid "caliphate," various
versions of Shi'ism emerged and took hold among tiny segments of the
ever expanding Muslim domain.
In our own times, starting with the era of European colonialism, TWO
opposing TENDENCIES have taken hold in the Muslim world as follows in
From among the majority of Muslims, the followers of the Sunnah of
Muhammad, pbuh, have emerged reform movements which urge Muslims to
FOCUS on the BASIC TEXTS of Islam, the Qur'an and the authentic Hadith.
Thus Islamic Schools of Thought, which appertain to the era of
Kingship, came under critical scrutiny. More recently we have the
SALAFI movement and the Ahle Hadith movement insisting that all
activity in the name of Islam must be proven to be integral to the
basic Islamic texts or be discarded.
By contrast the PROBLEM with Shi'ism has been the EXPANSION of
FABRICATED STORIES and an ever increasing CONDEMNATION of the
Muslim Ummah. As the Shi'as kept on with this process of EXPANDED
FABRICATIONS, they moved towards abuse and vilification of the
Prophet's Companions, Sahabah, r.a. The Muslim world has been
shocked to receive insults from Shi'as aimed above all at 'Ayesha,
r.a., and the first three Rightly Guided Caliphs, Abu Bakr, Umar
and Usman, may Allah exalt them.
Shi'ism is based on the basic idea which Islam REJECTS: that spiritual
value resides in ONLY ONE FAMILY, that of Ali, r.a., and Fatima, r.a.,
and only through the two sons of Ali, Hasan and Husain, NOT his other
Over centuries, ALIENATION has been the hallmark of the Shi'a community.
They have come up with incredible story that the 12th imam of the
Shi'as, who disappeared when he was a child of 12, MORE THAN A
THOUSAND YEARS BACK, will re-emerge and fill the world with justice.
The Shrines of the 12 Shi'a imams are venerated, and in some cases,
the people allegedly buried there are prayed to and worshipped.
Scholars are not sure whether there were 12 imams, and then they
are not sure where they are buried, but that has not deterred the
Shi'as from carrying on their shrine-related activities.
Because the world is in a transitory stage before the 12th imam emerges,
as the Shi'as believe, hence temporary marriage or MUT'AH has been
legitimized in Shi'a mythology, a practice seen as fornication by
almost all Muslims who are not Shi'as.
NOW WE COME TO THE SITUATION in the MIDDLE EAST: In the post colonial
era, the rise of Muslim nationalism led to European withdrawal. However,
the Europeans installed westernized elites in each country they left.
They also created "ISRAEL" in the Muslim heartland and gave Kashmir
to India. The "Arab countries" are European creations, each with its
clique of secularized rulers.
IRAN became the exception. Imam Khomeini led an Islamic revolution,
overthrew the American power structure in Iran and tried to link up with
Islamic movements around the world. Unfortunately, Imam Khomeini's
leadership cadres were decimated by American agents. The lower level
leadership which took over was sectarian and nationalistic.
The horrors of the Iran-Iraq war fuelled Iranian sense of isolation.
Later in his life Saddam Hussein changed, became very nationalistic
and then blatantly Islamic. IRAN DID NOT CHANGE and REMAINED FIXATED
on HATRED OF SADDAM, thus playing into American hands. The passing
away of Imam Khomeini, to a major extent, put an end to the Islamic
element in the Iranian revolution.
The betrayal of Imam Husain's message in our times came from the same
area, southern Iraq, where the original betrayal took place.
The Shias of Iraq and the American military armada worked
hand-in-glove. The Muslim world watched in horror as the Americans
shelled the mosque of Abu Hanifah and hit the tomb of Abdul Qadir
Jilani. The entire city of FALLUJAH was wiped out, house by house,
mosque by mosque during the nights of Ramadan and Lailatul qadr.
THE SHIAS WATCHED IN SILENT GLEE and continued to help the invaders.
The Islamic movement established itself in western Iraq, particularly
five cities. The Americans destroyed the five cities, including their
mosques and Islamic schools because these were being run by al-Qaidah.
The Shias did not budge and continued to help the invaders.
Then the Shia shrine in Samarra was blown up. Who and why remains a
mystery. It's a Sunni city and no one worshipped at the shrine. As the
news came out, coordinated attacks were launched on 100 Sunni mosques
in the Baghdad area.
After that, death squads went to work, reportedly trained by Iran and
directed, directly or indirectly, by Moqtada al-Sadr, who in turn is
part of the al-Maliki "government" which is supported by both Bush
and Tehran. Thousands of Sunnis were executed at night and their
bodies dumped in the desert, in an effort to "cleanse" Baghdad of
Sunnis. In turn, ferocious resistance attacks have hit U.S. troops,
Shi'ite police, Shi'ite troops and in many cases innocent Shia civilians.
The Shia exultation at the murder of Saddam Hussein, who resisted
America and "Israel" to the bitter end, has made most Muslims
unsympathetic to Shia causes. Every night, the Zionist/corporate
media try to highlight the suffering of Shias while totally censoring
the suffering of the majority of the Iraqi people who are Sunnis.
[For the media, the people of Iraq are simply "millions of terrorists"
who deserve to be killed.]
What Really Happened in Najaf?
Jeff Severns Guntzel, Electronic Iraq, 31 January 2007
In today's Independent, Patrick Cockburn writes:
There are growing suspicions in Iraq that the official story of the
battle outside Najaf between a messianic Iraqi cult and the Iraqi
security forces supported by the US, in which 263 people were killed
and 210 wounded, is a fabrication. The heavy casualties may be evidence
of an unpremeditated massacre.
A picture is beginning to emerge of a clash between an Iraqi Shia tribe
on a pilgrimage to Najaf and an Iraqi army checkpoint that led the US
to intervene with devastating effect. The involvement of Ahmed
al-Hassani (also known as Abu Kamar), who believed himself to be
the coming Mahdi, or Messiah, appears to have been accidental.
The story emerging on independent Iraqi websites and in Arabic newspapers
is entirely different from the government's account of the battle with
the so-called "Soldiers of Heaven", planning a raid on Najaf to kill
Shia religious leaders.
The cult denied it was involved in the fighting, saying it was a
Read all of Cockburn's piece here.
Here is our own translation of an eyewitness account posted on the
Al-Iraq news site:
It all started at six am on Sunday, January 28, 2007, as the Hatimi
convoy reached the outskirts of Najaf for the Ashura celebration.
Hatimi is one of the largest Arab tribes of the south. They live
between Najaf and Diwaniyyeh.
The convoy included 200 persons from the tribe and who came from all
over the country to participate in Ashura. When they arrived in Zerqa,
northeast of Najaf, they were greeted by the Kazaal tribe. The Kazaals
and the Hawatmis ľ members of Hatimi tribe - are tribes known for
their resistance to the British colonization last century and their
fierce opposition to the US occupation this century. They were among
the first Shiite tribes that joined hands with Hareth al Dari - head
of the Association of Muslim scholars - to unite Iraqis against the
The procession of the tribe to Ashura was led by the head of the tribe,
Saad Nayef Al Hatimi and his wife, who, because they were old and
could not walk, came in a white car.
Iraqi police - who had warned before that no cars are allowed in Najaf
during Ashura - immediately shot at the car and killed the head of the
tribe, his wife and the driver - Jaber Rida al Hatimi. The outraged
convoy attacked the checkpoint of the Badr Brigade without firing at
it at all - though we had guns to protect ourselves for the two night
walk to Najaf. The police started to shoot at us again and 20 of us
died. The Kazal tribe came to rescue us since we have close ties with
them and we back each other in peace and war. After ten minutes of
exchanging fire, the checkpoint called the police station in Najaf,
claimed that they had been attacked with heavy weapons by Al Qaeda
from all sides, and called the American troops for back up.
After fifteen minutes, Iraqi police with American troops besieged us.
And US helicopters started to shell us with leaflets saying give in
or be killed...The Badr Brigade knew we were not Al Qaeda but Shiites
and fabricated the story of the "Soldiers of Heaven." As a result of
the US shelling and the attacks by Iraqi police and US troops, 120 of
the Hatimi tribe and 30 from the Kazal tribe were killed. We are not
soldiers neither of the sky nor of the earth.
The Al Iraq piece continues:
The Islam Memo spoke to one of the notables of the Kazal tribe -
Khalaf abd el Hussein al Kazali - who said, "The government, backed
with US troops, killed 120 of the Hatimi tribe and 33 of the Kazal
tribe. They said at the start that the murdered were Zarqawi followers
from Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Afghanistan, and then they claimed that
they were Soldiers of Heaven, who follow a man who claims he is the
heir of the Mahdi on earth. I do not really know where they got
these lies, and how they fabricated them."
A convoy of thirteen journalists was based at a hotel in Najaf. Among
them was the American journalist, Hoffman Smith, and the Iraqi
journalist, Aws al Khafaji, who said, "We had an agreement with
the American troops to head to the field where the fighting was
taking place, but then we were locked in the hotel by the Iraqi
forces who forbade any journalist to head to the place."
The truth, however, came from Al Diwaniyyah, where at three o'clock
on Monday, 54 bodies of Hatimi tribe arrived. These are the names of
some of those who were murdered and buried in Al Diwaniyyah as reported
by our Al iraq news correspondent.
1. Hussein Sarheed Al Hatimi, a barber in Shafiiyyah,
2. Adnan Faraj Karim Al Hatimi, he was killed with his son, Hatem,
and he is a taxi driver,
3. Firas Muheeb Abd el Falak Al Hatimi, a student in the business
school in Diwaniyya,
4. Mansour Hasan Atroush Al Hatimi, a shop owner in Mailha souk,
5. Karim Abed el Mohsen Al Hatimi,
6. Ali Hussein Al Hatimi, a student in sixth grade,
7. Mouemen Muhammad Al Hatimi,
8. Yaser Jaafar Nida Al Hatimi,
9. Ibrahim Abdallah Al Hatimi,
10. Arkan Abdallah Al Hatimi,
11. Bachir Abdallah Al Hatimi,
12. Abdallah Hussein Al Hatimi,
13. Salam Hussein Abed El Karim Al Hatimi,
14. Amin Ali Al Hatimi,
15. Salam Hussein Abd El Karim AL Hatimi,
16. Saed Nayef Al Hatimi,
17. Halimah Kawaf Manaty Al Hatimi,
18. Waheeb Hussein Abd El Rida Al Hatimi.
The Hatimi as well as Kazal notables are negotiating with the Najaf
mayor in order to get the seventy bodies which are in the Najaf
hospital. a doctor told The Islam Memo. The doctor said that the
Hatimi and Kazal notables are threatening that if they do not get
the bodies in twenty-four hours, things will get out of control.
For another account, don't miss Iraqi blogger Zeyad's take.
It is difficult to know exactly what happened in Najaf.
Unfortunately, followers of Iraq news are often forced to work
as detectives and search western media and Iraqi media alike for
clues. The above account cannot be confirmed yet, but it deserves
to be shared. eIraq will follow this story closely
Eight Black Panther Leaders Arrested for 36 Year old "Offense"
Yesterday, at the protest against the Iraq War, a young Muslim-activist
brutha was telling me about the recapture of eight members of the BPP, and
their treatment during the their earlier prosecutions in the 60s/70s. Abu
Ghraib, all over again. COINTELPRO is supposedly defunct and discredited.
(For those of you who live in the U.S., and are unfamiliar with
COINTELPRO, please, please educate yourself on it. The U.S. fascination
with torture did not begin at Abu Ghraib.) Yet, in the selective
application of justice characteristic of the U.S., its perpetrators gone
unpunished/prosecuted for the murders and torture committed under the
program. Not a single leader--Black or Muslim--who claims to stand for
justice and for the rights of the People, from Jesse Jackson to WD
Muhammad, or even Farrakhan, has called for an inquiry into COINTELPRO.
Today the system continues to victimize these innocents, as if they
haven't suffered enough. Muslims and people of conscience must speak out
against this injustice.
I'm not sure what's being done, if anything, to organize against this
outrage. The Jericho Movement may be posting updates, as they become
Eight veterans of the Black Panther Party (BPP,) seven of whom are accused
of belonging to the Black Liberation Army (BLA,) were arrested today on
charges stemming from the 1971 shooting death of San Francisco Police Sgt.
John V. Young.
The August 29, 1971 attack on the Ingleside Police Station came only eight
days after San Quentin prison guards gunned down BPP Field Marshal
"Soledad Brother" George Jackson. The murder of Jackson provoked threats
of retaliation and even sparked the Attica Prison rebellion.
Seven of the men arrested, all suspected BLA members, were charged with
murder and conspiracy. They are Ray Michael Boudreaux, 64, of Altadena;
Richard Brown, 65, of San Francisco; Herman Bell, 59, and Jalil Abdul
Muntaqim formerly known as Anthony Bottom, 55, both currently incarcerated
in New York state; Henry Watson Jones, 71, of Altadena; Francisco Torres,
58, of Queens, New York; and Harold Taylor, 58, of Panama City, Florida.
Another suspect, Ronald Stanley Bridgeforth, 62, was still being sought on
murder and conspiracy charges. Authorities believe he could be in France,
Belize or Tanzania.
Taylor and two others faced murder charges in 1973, but the case was
dismissed after a San Francisco judge that torture was used to extract
confessions from the men. San Francisco Police Department Inspectors Frank
McCoy and Ed Erdelatz were present for the interrogation and torture which
consisted of stripping the men naked and beating them with a lead pipe,
blind folding them and throwing wool blankets soaked with boiling water
over their bodies, placing electric probes on their genitals and other
body parts, inserting an electric cattle prod in their anus, punching and
kicking, and slamming them into walls while blindfolded.
McCoy and Erdelatz came out of retirement to lead investigation when the
case was reopened sometime in 2002. The decision to re-investigate the
incident followed the Department of Justice's expanding prosecution of
political crimes in the wake of the September 11th terrorist attacks.
Bell's attorney Stuart Hanlon called the arrests a "prosecution based on
vengeance and hate from the '60s." "There's a law enforcement attitude
that they hate these people, the Panthers," Hanlon said. "Now they're
going after old men."
Censorship in Britain
Famous Muslimah Journalist Yvonne Ridley Refused to shake Hands
with Saudi Prince Turki bin Sultan
Islam Channel satellite TV station has suspended its most
successful show to the delight of Zionists and enemies of Islam.
Yvonne Ridley was taken off air without warning or explanation three
weeks ago in what is being regarded as a self censorship move which
has baffled the Muslim community which watches the European station.
The show gave a regular platform to Palestinians and their supporters
as well as highlighted the injustices against Muslims around the world.
Efforts to get a satisfactory explanation from the company have failed
to date. The show's presenter Sis. Yvonne Ridley is also
uncharacteristically quiet although she did tell New Trend: "This
came without warning but it is a matter you should take up with my
employer. However, I will take this opportunity of thanking everyone
for their wonderful support and concern."
Meanwhile, there is speculation mounting that the show was pulled off
the air due to pressure from Saudi Arabia after Sis. Yvonne refused
to shake hands with Prince Turki bin Sultan during a visit at the
beginning of this year.
This story appeared in The Independent newspaper on January 9
under the headline Radical Ridley gives saudi prince the shakes.
Since she fell off an Afghan donkey in 2001, was kidnapped by Taliban
fighters and subsequently converted to Islam, Yvonne Ridley has rubbed
a few brothers and sisters of the faith up the wrong way.
The warning signs were there from the outset: while imprisoned, the
then-hard-drinking Sunday Express hack upset her captors by pinning
her "big, floppy, black knickers" to their washing line. She described
Abu Hamza as "quite sweet really". A cleric labelled her "extremist"
for refusing to shake hands with Sheikh Muhammad Sayyed Tantawi - the
highest spiritual authority for a billion Sunnis.
Now news reaches me from Saudi Arabia that Ridley has struck again,
last week offending another beacon of the faith: Prince Turki bin
Sultan, the son of the Kingdom's Crown Prince.
Saudi royalty are known for their ultra-orthodox Wahhabism (think
dress codes, segregation and extreme interpretation of Sharia law -
chopping hands, stoning, etc). But when, at a sumptuous post-Haj
buffet in Jeddah, the smiling prince extended his hand, Ridley
refused to shake it on religious grounds. She says: "It's not a
case of me offending the prince. He has offended me. I don't
Prince Turki, witnessed by court officials, diplomats and Saudi
socialites, dismissed her with a contemptuous wave of his hand.
Perhaps further questions should be directed to the Islam Channel by
sending emails to firstname.lastname@example.org
2007-02-01 Thu 20:40:18 cst